Talk:leid

RFV discussion: December 2019–January 2020

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leid

This was removed by an IP as redundant to the Scots entry, but we should give this its day in court. We would need to find usage that's Scottish English rather than Scots. Chuck Entz (talk) 14:40, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

I find it difficult to know where to draw the line between Scottish English and Scots. I found one cite that is clearly Scottish English:

• 2014, Gaston Dorren, Jonathan Buckley, Lingo: A Language Spotter's Guide to Europe:

  And linguistically, too, Scotland is different, for it has a leid that is closely related to, yet different from, English:

But where do you classify these?:

• 1966, Robert Lindsay, Aeneas James George Mackay, The Historie and Chronicles of Scotland:

  The Duk of Albanie send to France to leirne the leid.

• 1986, Dietrich Strauß, Horst W. Drescher, Scottish Language and Literature, Medieval and Renaissance:

  An a peasant deealec is no a national leid. A leid is whit fowk thinks it is.

• 2014, Calum Colvin, Burnsiana:

  Aye Colin! There wis ne'er lik you, Tae speik the leid sae leal an true, Their nae dout ye'd thon gift enow, Bi Druids divined, That they wid train until it grew;

Kiwima (talk) 20:55, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

The last three are clearly variations of Scots; the first one seems to be an exception rather than the role, and even so the word "leid" equally as clearly is borrowed from Scots. Finally, even if we somehow rule that the English section deserves its place in the article, we should still give a usage example in English rather than Scots, which is what it is currently.--Oldstone James (talk) 23:08, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

The first one is not Scottish English but plain English with a Scots word thrown in to underscore the point being made.  --Lambiam 00:24, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

RFV-failed Kiwima (talk) 20:08, 24 January 2020 (UTC)