Talk:pour

Etymology

This is the most attestable origin that I have ever seen for this word. This is also possibly handed down in speech through servants. The synonymous Flemish word appears to be borrowed from the English. Its earliest known meaning according to Professor Skeat is 'to purify or clarify, especially by pressure or squeezing'. This remotely links with the meaning 'to jerk'. Its derivation from Old French PURER[1] is improbable due to inadmissable vowel sound changes, in spite of the semantics. With this distinction of meaning from Old English SCENCAN (to pour), it is only likely to have replaced it in literacy, but may have been spoken since the Celtic era[7]. Any remote kinships with pre-historic Spanish words, like PORRA[4] (club, bludgeon) PORRÓN[4] (earthen jug, pitcher, or wine bottle with long spout), and more disconnected still, BORRAR[3] (to cross out); are completely unattestable, unless of Iberian origin! However, the older the comparative words the greater the potential change exists in their meanings. 13:28, 31 August 2015 (UTC) Andrew (talk) Feasibility code changed to [1]. Andrew H. Gray 07:09, 25 May 2021 (UTC) Andrew (talk).

In reply to the next edit; just as there are a number of ancient words retained in English, so there are in Dutch: PEUREN answers to Old French PURER[5], particularly in the sense of 'clarification by pressure or squeezing'; however the Flemish word, POUREN does seem to be borrowed from English[4]. One of the ancient word examples in Dutch is KWAADE, that corresponds with Welsh GWAED[6], (worse). Andrew H. Gray

[0] means 'Absolutely not; [1] means 'Exceedingly unlikely'; [2] means 'Very dubious'; [3] means 'Questionable'; [4] means 'Possible'; [5] means 'Probable'; [6] means 'Likely'; [7] means 'Most Likely' or *Unattested; [8] means 'Attested'; [9] means 'Obvious' - only used for close matches within the same language or dialect, at linkable periods.

Could these words(dutch) be related to this? Peuren is defined as putten (“to extract”) and trekken (“to pull”), imagine this in a phrase like, "peur me that wine" meaning either "to pull a wine's cork?" or "extract that wine", but this might be far stretched :> Eliot (talk) 01:51, 4 September 2015 (UTC)