Talk:renege
Latest comment: 6 years ago by Lollipop
is the last "e" on of these: é ? --Jaysscholar 04:18, 10 November 2005 (UTC)--
No, I don't think so. Andrew massyn 19:13, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
-- Def2. To fail to follow suit in cards.
- I didn't want to rfv this on the page, as it is the word of the day today, but isn't the second definition to revoke? Andrew massyn 14:15, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, renege is the word we use in games such as bridge or pinochle when someone does not follow suit when he has to. If deliberate, it’s the worst kind of cheating, but usually it’s an oversight. The team caught reneging forfeits the hand, and possibly the rubber or even the game. The wording in the definition, "to break one’s commitment", seems a very polite way to put it, considering the ire that it produces. —Stephen 14:31, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
- I play bridge and occasionally revoke. I don't know it as reneging. Is this a UK / US thing? Andrew massyn 14:37, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, renege is the word we use in games such as bridge or pinochle when someone does not follow suit when he has to. If deliberate, it’s the worst kind of cheating, but usually it’s an oversight. The team caught reneging forfeits the hand, and possibly the rubber or even the game. The wording in the definition, "to break one’s commitment", seems a very polite way to put it, considering the ire that it produces. —Stephen 14:31, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
- In my US usage, I've heard/used it both for 1) failure to follow suit, and 2) failure to make a bid contract (e.g. in Spades.) Not that that's citable or anything... --Jeffqyzt 14:45, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
- I'll check Hoyle tonight to see if I can spot a citation. --EncycloPetey 21:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
- This is from Wikipedia, so I guess they are both correct. Andrew massyn 19:13, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
- I'll check Hoyle tonight to see if I can spot a citation. --EncycloPetey 21:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
- revoke (also called a renege) is a violation of important rules regarding the play of tricks in trick-taking card games serious enough to render the round invalid. A revoke is a violation ranked in seriousness somewhat below overt cheating, with the status of a more minor offense only because, when it happens, it is usually accidental.
The first I had heard the word used, I was told that it meant to "Re-negotiate". From reading the rest of the comments above though- that doesn't really seem like it fits the case... 173.30.88.155 05:11, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- I think it's commonly assumed to be an abbreviation of renegotiate, and therefore, people who make that assumption will use it as such. Historically speaking they are incorrect, but a dictionary's job is to decide when a given usage of a term is used widely enough to merit inclusion, regardless of whether it is historically correct or not. Also, I suspect those who misunderstand the meaning might be those likely to misspell the word as *reneg (depending on pronunciaiton). Lollipop (talk) 21:10, 14 August 2017 (UTC)