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RFV discussion[edit]

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At the moment, I'm guessing that this isn't a real prefix; however, it's difficult to tell without exemplifying terms. Are there three out there that use this? ※ Raifʻhār Doremítzwr   〰 ··  〰  04:26, 14 February 2010 (UTC)Reply

I haven't confirmed that coinage was in English (vs French or Middle English) but consider: videocassette, videodisc/k, videotape, videogame, videophone, videoconference, videocam/(era), videoscreen, videoclip, videophile, videomail, videogenic, videolab, videographic, videoscopic, videotext, videoanalysis. All of these have three or more hits on COCA. I have excluded the capitalized words which are probably proper nouns/trade names. Perhaps they haven't gotten to the UK yet. DCDuring TALK 13:15, 14 February 2010 (UTC)Reply
(deprecated template usage) videogram is a good one, because it can't stand as two separate words. Equinox 16:26, 15 February 2010 (UTC)Reply
I agree. That one should be a conversation stopper. But my intuition of most of these terms' derivations is not that they came from a noun sense by compounding or suffixation, but rather by productive prefixation. It certainly can't be from the countable senses which seem like back-formations from {videoclips, videocassettes, etc.) The original meaning of video seems to have been "portion of a signal carrying visual content". I don't know when it came to refer to recorded visual content. It is believed to have been formed to be in parallel to (deprecated template usage) audio/(deprecated template usage) audio-. OnlineEtyD reports audio- as preceding audio by nearly 20 years.
If we take terms like "videophone" and "videoconference", it seems clear that the implicit sense of "video-" is not very close to any common sense of "video". I am not clear as to how to get specific confirmation of my intuitions, nor of the value of deleting (or keeping) video-. I would think we would need to start with a complete set of the attestable senses of "video", some idea of when the term assumed each sense, and when the usage passed from specialized to general use. We would have to do something similar for each term beginning in "video". DCDuring TALK 17:36, 15 February 2010 (UTC)Reply

Striking. (If you're not satisfied with DCDuring's examples, feel free to raise this at WT:RFD.) —RuakhTALK 00:19, 3 September 2010 (UTC)Reply