Talk:wlatsome

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Almost all of the Google Books hits are Middle English, but there is the one gibberishy citation I put on the citations page, and an apparently modernized (and thus "modern English"?) edition of some old medieval prose work has "My sins be so ghastly, grisly, and great: they maketh me so wlatsome [disgusting] and stinking foul that I ne dare him nigh ne follow my need." And a modernized edition of Chaucer appears to retain it. Thus, it seems to just barely meet CFI. - -sche (discuss) 00:25, 24 March 2017 (UTC)Reply

RFV discussion: May–June 2020[edit]

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--Apunite (talk) 20:54, 9 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

The only normal Modern English (barely) attestation for this appears to be "Oh waltsome murder that attaynts our fame, / O horrible traytours, wanting worthy name." (1563, John Dolman, from the Mirror for Magistrates). A Glossary of Tudor and Stuart Words considers this specific instance an idiosyncratic imitation of Chaucer; for whatever reason in the 2019 Cambridge edition they've "modernised" waltsome back to wlatsome, but they footnote it there too as "a Chaucerian archaism". So it was a term that was already archaic in the 16th century. I'm guessing this is the thing User:-sche mentioned on the talk page, though somehow they saw it before it was published.
I've found three other examples but they are dodgy: this story in the NYT where they're deliberately using obsolete words beginning with "wl"; the nonsense one that's already on the citations page; and page 7 of this book ("Where the subject of choice is so wlatsome what is presented must depend finally and ultimately upon a certain oligophrenial whim"—search "wlatsome" via look inside). —Nizolan (talk) 17:48, 11 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

It's borderline, but I am calling this RFV-failed, since we have the Middle English entry. Kiwima (talk) 20:32, 11 June 2020 (UTC)Reply