User talk:I.ellinika

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Welcome I.ellinika and thank your for very nice contributions for Modern Greek. Our administrator is Saltmarsh. We are at your disposal for any questions. Happy edits! ‑‑Sarri.greek ^♫ | 08:55, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

I add my thanks to Sarri's, who is Greek; I am English and I'm afraid that my Greek is full of holes!

• If you look at these - Greek model pages - you may get some more ideas about layout.
• I don't like to overload you with instructions - I can just about remember how confusing it was when starting out. So please ask me for any help, my talk page — User talk:Saltmarsh — is the place to contact me (but I will be away 17-24 September)
• With nearly 100.000 Greek pages it is next to impossible to check and add tables of inflections where they are missing. Please consider adding an inflection section where appropriate, you don't need to know the correct procedure, just add one of the sections of text shown below, as appropriate.

====Conjugation====
{{rfinfl|el|verb}}
====Declension====
{{rfinfl|el|noun}}
====Declension====
{{rfinfl|el|adjective}}

This template {{rfinfl}} adds the word to a list of those which need a table to be added.

Thanks again — Saltmarsh^🢃 11:36, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, @Sarri.greek and @Saltmarsh! This all is extremely helpful, and I will try my best to follow the good practices you have set :) As a quasi-introduction, I am not Greek, but have been learning Modern Greek for some time, though am really a beginner for now (I guess around decent A2 in the European framework). What helps is that I happen to have good background in theoretical and historical linguistics (though not lexicography...), so I am used to working with texts in languages that I might not fully understand yet, and so I hope I can distinguish the cases when I understand enough about a word to add to a Wiktionary entry, and those where my understanding is not sufficient. I am really looking forward to becoming more confident about how to contribute appropriately - I have been helped by the Greek-English Wiktionary an awful lot, so it's a great pleasure to be able to give back a tiny bit!

I really like the list of model entries: adding my first words, I tried to emulate what I saw in already existing entries, so having a list of gold-standard entries in one place is extremely helpful.

Having the templates that simply flag the need to add inflection is a great idea! I am reasonably confident about noun declensions, so have been trying to add those to the new entries I've created. I expect that in a few weeks, I'll probably become confident enough about the adjectives, and hopefully the verbs, and then can add those too - so for now, I'll leave "my" new entries as they are, but at some point in the next weeks I'll need to either add inflection tables to all of them, or add the expressions above that mark them out as in need of a table.

Thank you both _very much_ again :)

@Saltmarsh: I guess one question is, do you have a policy/suggested best practice for when to add a morphological form different from the main dictionary form? E.g. I see that you've added the aorist for υψώνω, which is a good idea. Perhaps several other forms would be helpful for the users looking up an unfamiliar form, e.g. the past passive. Also, I wonder if there is a more automatic way to add such entries for morphological form? Something like a script that would take the forms explicitly listed in the Template:el-verb..., and create appropriate pages for each of them?

P.S. @Saltmarsh: I see that the conjugation/declension placeholders have been added already - thank you for that!