User talk:JohnC5/Sandbox4

Could y'all check these?

@Aryamanarora, माधवपंडित, hey, could y'all check these for me? I haven't finished the consonant stems yet, but this is a start. It is based primarily on Whitney. Also, any ideas you have about the display would be great. —JohnC5 08:12, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

@JohnC5: This is amazing... mādhavpaṇḍit (talk) 08:44, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

The final things that remain are these declensions:

• Root nouns (stem form: -VC)
• Participles in -ant or -at (stem form: -at)
• Possessives in -mant or -vant (stem form: -mat and -vat)
• Perfect Participles in -vāṅs (stem form: -vas)
• Comparatives in -yāṅs or -yas (stem form: -yas)

As you can see, there is some ambiguity in stem form between these declensions. I would prefer to enter alternative stem forms into the template to disambiguate, namely:

• Root nouns (remains -VC)
• Participles in -ant or -at (now -ant)
• Possessives in -mant or -vant (now -mānt and -vānt, or -ant and |part=1)
• Perfect Participles in -vāṅs (now -vāṅs)
• Comparatives in -yāṅs or -yas (now -yāṅs)

This will mean that the user will be required to manually enter this alternative stem form, as opposed to having the page auto-generate. There still an issue that some root nouns can overlap with the other declensions. This will probably need to be handled with some sort of override parameter (e.g. |root=1, etc.). We will also have to create a separate system for irregular nouns, and I'll need to modify these to correctly do the adjectival forms correctly as well. I would really appreciate your feedback. —JohnC5 10:09, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

@JohnC5: This is absolutely fantastic... I don't see any errors atm. —Aryaman ^{(मुझसे बात करो)} 12:07, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

@Aryamanarora, माधवपंडित: Any ideas about this proposal?The alternative proposal would be a series of parameters like |part=1, |poss=1, |perf=1, |comp=1, |root=1 along with pattern recognition from the "normal" stem forms. I think this might be better. This would mean the system would look like:

• Root nouns (stem form: -VC and |root=1)
• Participles in -ant or -at (stem form: -at and |part=1 or |pres_part=1)
• Possessives in -mant or -vant (stem form: -mat / -vat and |poss=1)
• Perfect Participles in -vāṅs (stem form: -vas and |poss=1 or |perf_part=1)
• Comparatives in -yāṅs or -yas (stem form: -yas and |comp=1)

I think this might be more intuitive and I can force the user to enter a parameter when making a decision. What do y'all think? —JohnC5 02:08, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

@JohnC5: I agree, the user should have to input a parameter for those special cases. This is really great, thanks for all the work you put into this (and {{grc-decl}})! —Aryaman ^{(मुझसे बात करो)} 13:58, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

@JohnC5: I trust your judgement! Your efforts are appreciated. I love this... -- mādhavpaṇḍit (talk) 16:32, 10 October 2017 (UTC)