User talk:Ketiga123

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Enjoy your stay at Wiktionary! Ultimateria (talk) 15:36, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

Lewis reference

Can I ask what this reference is for? Why are you adding it to entries? Ultimateria (talk) 20:20, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

What are references usually for? Ketiga123 (talk) 20:21, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

As a source for etymologies, or to show that a pronunciation is also listed in another dictionary, for example. Usually they support the inclusion of specific pieces of information in an entry. See Wiktionary:References. Ultimateria (talk) 20:31, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

There you have your answer. It is a source for etymologies. Ketiga123 (talk) 20:42, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Oh, I see. Check out the formatting changes I made here: diff. That way the reference and the info from it are explicitly linked. Keep up the good work! Ultimateria (talk) 20:51, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Azerbaijani Dictionary

Hi there, thanks for fixing my mistakes and helping me out, I appreciate it.

I noticed I made many mistakes in camaat, particularly the meaning.

I wanted to ask, which source can I use to get definitions for Azerbaijani in English or Azerbaijani, like what's the Azerbaijani equivalent of TDK for Turkish. I've used azerdict.com but maybe you have a better suggestion.

I'm sorry if my contributions to Azerbaijani are not perfect, I'm still learning it but I'm really enjoying it and contributing helps me as well as others.

Many thanks for your help and edits

BassHelal (talk) 22:49, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

@BassHelal No worries, your last entry etiraz was almost perfect.

Yes, you really do need a dictionary. Unfortunately, there is none. At least not an Azerbaijani-English one. Azerdict is using some sort of data-driven translation engine that gives translations based on co-occurance or something of the kind, I'm not sure. The same sort that Google Translate is using. It's no good. I am using Azerbaijani-Russian dictionary form 2006 myself, which is descent (but far from perfect), but I understand it's of no use to you.

Can you read in Azerbaijani? If you can sort it out, you could use the Explanatory Dictionary of the Azerbaijani Language, it's availiable through Azerdict as well. Maybe you can figure it out by running a given definition through Google Translate. At least, that way you can understand what Arabic senses are not present in an Azerbaijani equivalent. Ketiga123 (talk) 23:08, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

@Ketiga123 Yeah well etiraz was basically just the same as etiraf which you helped me with, so the thanks goes to you.

Yeah that's what I've done sometimes when the term has an explanation, but that it not always true so the translations are the only thing there.

By the way a lot of terms of Arabic origin in Azerbaijani and Turkish take their meaning from Farsi, which can differ quite heavily from the meaning of the original Arabic term. hakaret is a good example of this, the general idea is close but the nuance is off, like camaat and many others, maybe I'll do that now, use the Persian meaning as a guide. From my experience, if the word is in all the languages (Arabic, Farsi, Turkish, Azerbaijani) then it will most likely take the meaning of the Persian version, just like how it always takes the pronunciation of the Persian version, this is because most of these terms went to Azerbaijani and Turkish through Persian which itself in its literary form is like 50% or more Arabic words, similar to what French and Latin are to English.

Anyway sorry to bother you and thanks for your help, you've really made me feel like doing this in my free time isn't a waste of time, I seriously appreciate your help and support.

Peace to you :)

BassHelal (talk) 01:05, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello again. There is, in fact, a decent Azerbaijani-English dictionary. You can find it here: http://www.urmiye.info/Azerbaycanca_Ingilisce_luget.pdf

"This user is an auxiliary user of..."

Hi. What is the purpose of an "auxiliary user"? Equinox ◑ 12:19, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

I locked myself out from the other account and gave away the password to a friend. He won't give it back to me until I defend my thesis. But I couldn't make it without Wiktionary so I started using this one to circumvent the temporary lock-out I imposed on myself. Ketiga123 (talk) 12:27, 30 July 2019 (UTC)