Reconstruction talk:Proto-Semitic/ḳ-r-ʔ
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@Metaknowledge: How does the Akkadian have a different sense? The Akkadian means “to call, to invite, to invoke—in particular gods to an area, so does the Phoenician mean in particular in the meaning of god invocations, and so in the Ugaritic dictionary you find the glosses of calling and invoking. It was basically nothing but shouting for something, so in the Hebrew the verb means apart from also meaning “to call” “to crow”, hence קֹרֵא (qōrē, “partridge”), found cognate to the Arabic word name قَارِيَة (qāriya) by Koehler-Baumgartner. Until the end of antiquity it stayed so, “reading” rarely even then in our sense. You are lost in translation. Kogan’s claim that “Akk. ḳerû ‘to invite’, often compared to this root [he himself owns being an outsider to common knowledge], may rather belong to the (nearly) homonymous *ḳry, *ḳrˀ ‘to meet’” instead of the other terms meaning “to invite”, certainly tops the list of the absurd things I have read this week, by impact. Besides it is non-sequitur to delete the entry if one has been put up to that shedding—for according to that (non-)logic there is another Proto-Semitic *ḳaraʔ- (and yes, I consider the Akkadian having two homonyms CAD has not shed, another thing Kogan was shallow about). Fay Freak (talk) 20:52, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Fay Freak: Your case would be stronger if you abstained from inferring semantics that aren't actually attested, but the connection between the Akkadian and the Phoenician to invoking gods is very intriguing. I guess I'm fine with this as PS provided we slap some references on it — would you mind dealing with that? I'll move the page to *q-r-ʔ; I think that for ease, we're just going to have to lemmatise PS verbs by their roots. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 03:21, 20 September 2021 (UTC)