Talk:Ottoman Empire

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I am missing the most important thing.

Would be nice to know, why they call it Ottoman empire and NOT Osman Empire. Germans call it OSMANisches Reich from the leader Osman the first. — This unsigned comment was added by 217.83.174.161 (talk).

It's just a different transliteration. The personal name in Arabic is عثمان (‘uthmān), which in Latin became Ottomanus, whence the English. But the same Arabic name is also transliterated as Osman, Uzman and several other variants, which have provided names in other languages as well as in older forms of English. Widsith 00:38, 15 December 2007 (UTC)Reply
By the way, the German ottomanisch also exists. Widsith 00:45, 15 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

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See WT:CFI#Names of specific entities. Is this a toponym? How should it be defined? How does one know when the definition is attested? DCDuring TALK 16:12, 14 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

Does it matter? I don't see any difference to Roman Empire, Soviet Union or any name of state for that matter. The borders tend to vary over time. --Hekaheka 09:25, 17 May 2010 (UTC)Reply
Clearly widespread use.RuakhTALK 02:34, 3 November 2010 (UTC)Reply
Indeed, clearly widespread use — I've provided some quotations — though this seems to be less a question of attestation and more a question of Wiktionary:CFI#Place names. — Beobach 20:56, 20 November 2010 (UTC)Reply

Striking, specific entities does not require specific type of citations. DAVilla 07:33, 9 December 2010 (UTC)Reply