Talk:Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz

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Only found in wordlists. -- Prince Kassad 14:00, 22 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

According to de-Wikipedia article it was nominated as one of the ten "words of the year" in 1999 by the Gesellschaft für deutsche Sprache (Society for German language). I checked the pages of the society, and they really did that. There's no explanation, but probably as an example of a monster word produced by the legislative bureaucracy. Judging by the web pages the society appears a serious one. The other nominations for 1999 were words that were new and became commmon knowledge at that time, such as Kosovokrieg and Euroland. It also appears that the state of Meclenburg-Vorpommern has actually approved this statute in 2000, the full title being Gesetz zur Übertragung der Aufgaben für die Überwachung der Rinderkennzeichnung und Rindfleischetikettierung (Rinderkennzeichnungs- und Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz - RkReÜAÜG M-V). The minister who presented the statute to the state parliament reportedly apologized for mögliche Überlänge (possible overlength) of the statute title. --Hekaheka 03:52, 23 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
Yes, it's a word used in an official text. I would propose to add a criterion in CFI: words attested in official texts or with an official use are systematically includable, even if we cannot find them attested elsewhere. This would be a useful rule. An example: there are at least two streets in France named vionnet (e.g. vionnet de l'Eglise). It's difficult to find other uses, but it should be enough to include this word. The etymology is clear. Lmaltier 18:49, 25 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
About the word: it's famous, and it would be a pity to delete the page. There are some English words included here, although never really used, but included because they are famous. Lmaltier 18:51, 25 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
What's an official text? Surely it's a text that considers itself officially. "Official" isn't an objective term, far from it, it's entirely subjective. A text is official if you consider it to be, otherwise, it isn't. Mglovesfun (talk) 18:57, 25 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
I mean words used by local, national or international territorial administrative bodies. Lmaltier 19:16, 25 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
I believe, that idea was in the past proposed (so that yottalumen etc. could be included) and rejected. - -sche 20:40, 25 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
I have found some quotations of vionnet. No quotations of Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz, however. - -sche 20:40, 25 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
Why not put the German linguistic novelty put a suitably titled appendix and have an {{only-in}} direct to it's section thereof if it isn't attestable in actual use. DCDuring TALK 22:34, 25 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
Good idea. In contrast to English, where Dutchman is considered a word because it is unspaced, too many German "words" (in the sense of LackingSpacesCharacterStrings) are not truly German words, idiomatic and requiring entries here. DAVilla 06:40, 12 March 2011 (UTC)Reply
RFV-failed because it is unattested. - -sche (discuss) 20:29, 24 June 2011 (UTC)Reply


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books:

  • Bernhard Wolff, Denken hilft: Frische Ideen für Gedächtnis und Kreativität ([1])
  • BGB: Besseres Gesetzbuch: "Diese Regelung gilt auch und insbesondere für das Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz (RklEtt§A§G, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern) sowie das Rinderkennzeichnungs- und Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz (RkRe§A§G).

net:

BTW another long word: "Grundstücksverkehrsgenehmigungszuständigkeitsübertragungsverordnung". --84.161.42.223, 23:10, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Possible additional citations

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  • 2000, Neue Justiz, volume 54, page 224
    [Ein] Gesetz zur Übertragung der Aufgaben für die Überwachung der Rinderkennzeichnung und Rindfleischetikettierung (Rinderkennzeichnungs- und Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz - RkReÜAÜG M-V) vom 19.1.2000
  • 2003, Jochen A. Bär, Von "aufmüpfig" bis "Teuro": die "Wörter der Jahre" 1971-2002, page 123:
    [] Trotz zahlreicher Maßnahmen (Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz) und Untersuchungen mussten 2001 Gesundheitsministerin Fischer und Landwirtschaftsminister Funke wegen der BSE-Krise zurücktreten.
  • 2005, Zeitschrift für Rechtspolitik, volume 38, page 203:
    Unerreicht ist allerdings ein Landesgesetz: „Rinderkennzeichnungs- und Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz - RkReÜAÜG“.

- -sche (discuss) 11:00, 14 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

Together with the BGB: Besseres Gesetzbuch (2013) citation above/below, this may be just barely cited now. - -sche (discuss) 07:41, 15 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • 2013, BGB: Besseres Gesetzbuch:
    Diese Regelung gilt auch und insbesondere für das Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz (RklEtt§A§G, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern) sowie das Rinderkennzeichnungs- und Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz (RkRe§A§G).

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  • 2009, Ernst Röhl, Wo bleiben die Westpakete: 20 Jahre blühende Rabatten, page 87
    [] Bestimmungen, Urteile, Fehlurteile und Gesetzestexte, zum Beispiel das vom Schweriner Landtag beschlossene Rinderkennzeichnungs- und Rindfleischetikettierungs-Überwachungsaufgaben-Übertragungsgesetz. Aus einem Beschluss []