Talk:green line

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RFD 2013[edit]

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The quote does not support this – it just means a literal green line (which happens to indicate a grammar mistake). But you can't say, "I've made a green line." (green line may mean something else though, like the Israel-Arab state boundaries.) Ƿidsiþ 07:41, 19 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Kept. No consensus to delete. bd2412 T 15:39, 28 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

I missed my chance to vote for deletion. See below. Dbfirs 08:37, 30 April 2014 (UTC)Reply
I'd say you missed your chance by about a year. We can't keep discussions forever in the hope that editors will suddenly notice them. bd2412 T 14:46, 7 May 2014 (UTC)Reply
But we can renominate something that had no discussion, can't we?. --WikiTiki89 14:48, 7 May 2014 (UTC)Reply
I don't see why not. It would be handy to get this removed from this page to facilitate movement to the appropriate section of this page from any new RfD. DCDuring TALK 19:58, 7 May 2014 (UTC)Reply


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green line[edit]

The sense: "Any of the various subway, railway, tram and bus lines around the world marked with color green on the map and/or on the signs along the route or on the vehicles" is completely SOP, as it refers to a line that has randomly been designated "green". In my town, we have one of these, along with a red line, blue line, orange line, yellow line, and soon-to-open silver line and purple line. Undoubtedly we can find other examples from around the world, but in every case they will be no more idiomatic than train or bus routes that identify their route by reference to numbers or geographic locations. bd2412 T 15:47, 28 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Delete. What's next- A line: "Any of the various subway, railway, tram and bus lines around the world marked with the letter A"? Chuck Entz (talk) 07:42, 29 April 2014 (UTC)Reply
Delete. The example given is not even correct. The London Underground does not use colours as names for the lines. It would be "District" line. --Dmol (talk) 21:25, 29 April 2014 (UTC)Reply
Deleted. It's my addition, so I took the liberty of deleting it right away. I originally added the "sense" as sort of bad joke because I thought it fit perfectly the SOPish overall content of the entry. Now, as the RFD for the whole entry was declared "unsolved" and thus "kept", there's no place for this "sense". The usex , btw, was not incorrect. The District line is sometimes referred to as the green (not Green) line as also the Tube uses color codes to differentiate the lines. --Hekaheka (talk) 04:22, 30 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

PS. I still think the word processing sense (which is the sense that provoked my irresponsible action) is equally SOP - the line indicating an error could be of any color, it just happens to be green in some word processors. In my version of Microsoft Outlook a suspected error is indicated by a dotted red line. The usex proves nothing. It would be absurd to call a green line on a screen for something else than a "green line". --Hekaheka (talk) 04:36, 30 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

I agree with you that almost all the uses of "green line" in the word processing context refer just to a line that happens to be green. I found two borderline examples, but not enough to convince me that it is used as a separate term in word processing. Would you like to rfv the sense? Dbfirs 08:30, 30 April 2014 (UTC)Reply
All senses seem encyclopedic, except the word-processing sense, too trivial for an encyclopedia, more suitable for a user-manual glossary at best. DCDuring TALK 12:23, 30 April 2014 (UTC)Reply
The generic sense of a demarcation line does not seem particularly encyclopedic to me; although examples are provided, the examples are not the definition. bd2412 T 12:44, 30 April 2014 (UTC)Reply
Then why not put the encyclopedic part of the definition into a properly formatted usage example. Also, try finding another green line that fits the definition, especially with the "such as". Then try substituting the definition with the "such as" into a usage instance for some other demarcation line. The comma between the definition proper "A demarcation line" and the 8 times longer "such as" is a flimsy basis for claiming the "example" is not part of the definition. The definition as is looks like a minimally disguised encyclopedic definition. DCDuring TALK 13:45, 30 April 2014 (UTC)Reply
Just to keep the discussion on track, my deletion nomination relates to the transportation route sense of "green line". bd2412 T 12:55, 2 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

Let's delete the whole entry! The demarcation line -sense is in Collins and dictionary.com, but the actual usage seems scant. Most of the time the term is either capitalized or within quotation marks, and even when it is not, it is used to refer to a specific Green Line. The word-processing sense is useless as DCD points out. --Hekaheka (talk) 06:53, 4 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

Agreed. Sense 1 is almost invariably capitalised in the usages I can find, so any entry should go under Green Line. Dbfirs 10:17, 5 May 2014 (UTC)Reply
I have no objection to the deletion of the entire entry. bd2412 T 01:02, 8 May 2014 (UTC)Reply
  • RFD deleted the sense per consensus, in diff. Other senses of the entry or the whole entry were not properly nominated (no RFD-sense or RFD tag in the mainspace), and I will not delete them in this RFV nomination. --Dan Polansky (talk) 09:02, 10 August 2014 (UTC)Reply