Talk:higher education

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RFV discussion: June–August 2017[edit]

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Rfv-sense: "Continued education after the point at which attendance of an educational institution is no longer compulsory." --This definition would seem to include secondary education e.g. high schools and vocational schools. Is that right? Other dictionaries seem to have a different point of view, e.g. American Heritage: "Education beyond the secondary level, especially education at the college or university level."--Hekaheka (talk) 02:42, 1 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

The definition seems very wrong on its face. In the US and many other countries school attendance is compulsory for person of certain ages, eg, 6-16 years of age. Obviously there is an association between mandatory attendance and level of schooling, but there is also an association between student height and level of schooling. I find it hard to imagine that there is unambiguous support for such a definition in contrast to citations supporting the association. DCDuring (talk) 03:49, 1 June 2017 (UTC)Reply
This definition makes sense to me here in the UK. It is what "higher education" means here, AFAIAA. It should be "attendance at ..." not "attendance of ..." though. Mihia (talk) 21:03, 6 June 2017 (UTC)Reply
From my own UK experience (the rules have changed since the 1990s): you could leave school at 16, or continue until 18 either in sixth form (typically at the same school) or at college; after that you might choose to continue further at university. I would not count sixth form or sixth-form-equivalent college as "higher education", though I might possibly be wrong. Equinox 21:06, 6 June 2017 (UTC)Reply
Sorry, I agree in the case of the sixth form. I forgot about that. Mihia (talk) 21:53, 6 June 2017 (UTC)Reply
So, the very definition of higher education is that it is not compulsory? To me it would just seem to be a non-defining predicate. Of course, many of our "definitions" have this characteristic.
How do we use the RfV process to show that a particular predicate is a definition? It is not by simply establishing the asserted truth of the predicate in citations. DCDuring (talk) 13:00, 7 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

RFV-failed Kiwima (talk) 10:04, 25 August 2017 (UTC)Reply