Talk:lay something at the feet of

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I have just added this entry. It is readily attestable, with more than 50 hits at COCA.

1. Is this an idiom or a mere metaphor?
2. Should it be included?
3. Should it be presented at "lay (something) at the feet of" with the existing entry a redirect?

-- DCDuring TALK 16:54, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

In comparison with the stuff that we have, this does just fine, i.e. looks sufficiently idiomatic to me. --Hekaheka 18:50, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

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lay at the feet of

This should be moved to lay something at the feet of, IMO. "Something" is a placeholder you can obviously substitute specific things for, just like you can "cross a friend's path" rather than only ever "crossing someone's path" — and as in the entry "cross someone's path", a placeholder is necessary here, because without one, "lay at the feet of" sounds intransitive: yet "the dog liked to lay at the feet of his master" isn't what the entry is about. - -sche (discuss) 21:13, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

We are not consistent in including something/someone as a placeholder. If we had a rule, we would want a placeholder for something like this where there is potential for confusion, but I don't think the rule should just be "avoid confusion" in a massive enterprise like this.

Move per nom. DCDuring TALK 00:24, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

I don't think a potentially confusing title should be reason enough to include a placeholder. We can (and should) clarify its use with {{transitive}} next to the definition (which is already done in this case). Longtrend (talk) 18:16, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Moved. - -sche (discuss) 22:51, 26 January 2014 (UTC)