Talk:trouser

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trouser[edit]

Verb. Should the usage note be converted into a new sense? Also: Is the existing sense transitive or intransitive?—msh210 17:11, 19 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

It look like User:Ruakh has cleaned up this --Volants 15:04, 5 February 2010 (UTC)Reply


RFV discussion: May–July 2022[edit]

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Rfv-sense: To legally remove funds from an organization for personal use. --Shouldn't it be "illegally"? --Hekaheka (talk) 20:53, 14 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

That was my first thought too but it can be used to refer to people immorally, but not illegally, removing or being paid money - especially if it’s an excessive amount. The wording of our current definition for this sense does seem rather off though. I can only find one hit on GoogleBooks from tabloid journalist Richard Littlejohn (‘Derry Irvine, Blair’s old boss, trousered a pension fund worth £2.3 million after just five years as Lord Chancellor - all courtesy of the taxpayer’)[1]. Overlordnat1 (talk) 19:56, 17 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
Created Citations:trouser, though it may be better to merge this sense with the previous one if not enough quotes can be found and the definition isn’t quite right. Overlordnat1 (talk) 15:19, 6 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
TV Corpus has quotes similar to this too (from the TV series Midsomer Murders and Capital (for trousered) and MI5 (for trousering)). [2]. Overlordnat1 (talk) 02:45, 19 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
This is similar from the Guardian [3], though it just means ‘earn easily’ here. Perhaps we should generalise it as ‘to gain money quickly and easily, especially if illegally gained or immorally earnt’. Also see [4],[5],[6] and [7]Overlordnat1 (talk) 03:14, 19 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
I’ve created a new sense at trouser based on pocket and added various uses found on Google News as citations. Perhaps the challenged sense can now be safely removed now? I think both the sense I’ve created at trouser and the related sense at pocket could both be improved a bit though by redefining them as ‘To earn, gain or win something (especially money that has been acquired easily, illegally or immorally)’. Overlordnat1 (talk) 08:09, 21 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

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Removed / merged into the sense Overlordnat added. - -sche (discuss) 23:05, 31 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
Thanks! 👍 Overlordnat1 (talk) 23:27, 31 July 2022 (UTC)Reply