妄說

Chinese

		absurd; fantastic	to speak; to say; persuade (politically)
trad. (妄說)		妄	說
simp. (妄说)		妄	说
In pronunciation 2, 說 is a tongjia character of 悅 (“pleased; to please”).

Pronunciation 1

• Mandarin

  (Pinyin): wàngshuō

  (Zhuyin): ㄨㄤˋ ㄕㄨㄛ

• Cantonese (Jyutping): mong⁵ syut³

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• Mandarin
  • (Standard Chinese)⁺
    • Hanyu Pinyin: wàngshuō
    • Zhuyin: ㄨㄤˋ ㄕㄨㄛ
    • Tongyong Pinyin: wàngshuo
    • Wade–Giles: wang⁴-shuo¹
    • Yale: wàng-shwō
    • Gwoyeu Romatzyh: wanqshuo
    • Palladius: ваншо (vanšo)
    • Sinological IPA ^(key): /wɑŋ⁵¹ ʂu̯ɔ⁵⁵/
• Cantonese
  • (Standard Cantonese, Guangzhou–Hong Kong)⁺
    • Jyutping: mong⁵ syut³
    • Yale: móhng syut
    • Cantonese Pinyin: mong⁵ syt⁸
    • Guangdong Romanization: mong⁵ xud³
    • Sinological IPA ^(key): /mɔːŋ¹³ syːt̚³/

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• Middle Chinese: mjangH sywet

Rime
Character	妄	說
Reading #	1/1	3/3
Initial (聲)	明 (4)	書 (26)
Final (韻)	陽 (106)	薛 (82)
Tone (調)	Departing (H)	Checked (Ø)
Openness (開合)	Closed	Closed
Division (等)	III	III
Fanqie	巫放切	失爇切
Baxter	mjangH	sywet
Reconstructions
Zhengzhang Shangfang	/mʉɐŋH/	/ɕiuᴇt̚/
Pan Wuyun	/mʷiɐŋH/	/ɕʷiɛt̚/
Shao Rongfen	/miuɑŋH/	/ɕjuæt̚/
Edwin Pulleyblank	/muaŋH/	/ɕwiat̚/
Li Rong	/miuaŋH/	/ɕiuɛt̚/
Wang Li	/mĭwaŋH/	/ɕĭuɛt̚/
Bernard Karlgren	/miwaŋH/	/ɕi̯wɛt̚/
Expected Mandarin Reflex	wàng	shuo
Expected Cantonese Reflex	mong6	syut3

• Old Chinese

  (Baxter–Sagart): /*maŋ-s  l̥ot/

  (Zhengzhang): /*maŋs  hljod/

Baxter–Sagart system 1.1 (2014)
Character	妄	說
Reading #	1/1	1/1
Modern Beijing (Pinyin)	wàng	shuō
Middle Chinese	‹ mjangH ›	‹ sywet ›
Old Chinese	/*maŋ-s/	/*l̥ot/
English	reckless	speak, explain
Notes for Old Chinese notations in the Baxter–Sagart system: * Parentheses "()" indicate uncertain presence; * Square brackets "[]" indicate uncertain identity, e.g. *[t] as coda may in fact be *-t or *-p; * Angle brackets "<>" indicate infix; * Hyphen "-" indicates morpheme boundary; * Period "." indicates syllable boundary.

Zhengzhang system (2003)
Character	妄	說
Reading #	1/1	2/3
No.	12684	2571
Phonetic component	亡	兑
Rime group	陽	月
Rime subdivision	0	3
Corresponding MC rime	妄	說
Old Chinese	/*maŋs/	/*hljod/

Verb

妄說

1. to talk irresponsibly; to talk nonsense

Synonyms

• 七說八說／七说八说 (Hokkien)
• 七講八講／七讲八讲 (Hokkien, Wu)
• 亂說／乱说 (luànshuō)
• 口胡 (kǒuhú) (neologism, Internet slang)
• 妄言 (wàngyán) (literary)
• 打鑔／打镲 (dǎchǎ) (regional)
• 扯淡 (chědàn)
• 扯臊 (chěsào) (regional)
• 掰 (bāi) (figurative, colloquial)
• 放屁 (fàngpì) (colloquial)
• 放狗屁 (fàng gǒupì) (vulgar)
• 瞎七搭八 (⁷haq-chiq-taq-paq) (Wu)
• 瞎扯 (xiāchě)
• 瞎掰 (xiābāi)
• 瞎聊 (xiāliáo)
• 瞎說／瞎说 (xiāshuō)
• 胡扯 (húchě)
• 胡言 (húyán)
• 胡言亂語／胡言乱语 (húyánluànyǔ)
• 胡言漢語／胡言汉语 (húyánhànyǔ)
• 胡說／胡说 (húshuō)
• 胡說八道／胡说八道 (húshuōbādào)
• 說東說西／说东说西 (Hokkien)
• 講東講西／讲东讲西 (Hokkien)
• 譗𧫡 (zházhì)
• 鬼扯 (guǐchě) (colloquial)

 

Noun

妄說

1. nonsense; rubbish; absurd remark

Synonyms

• 妄言 (wàngyán) (literary)
• 妄語／妄语 (wàngyǔ) (literary)
• 昏話／昏话 (hūnhuà)
• 胡言 (húyán)
• 胡話／胡话 (húhuà)
• 胡說／胡说 (húshuō)

 

Pronunciation 2

• Mandarin

  (Pinyin): wàngyuè

  (Zhuyin): ㄨㄤˋ ㄩㄝˋ

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• Mandarin
  • (Standard Chinese)⁺
    • Hanyu Pinyin: wàngyuè
    • Zhuyin: ㄨㄤˋ ㄩㄝˋ
    • Tongyong Pinyin: wàngyuè
    • Wade–Giles: wang⁴-yüeh⁴
    • Yale: wàng-ywè
    • Gwoyeu Romatzyh: wanqyueh
    • Palladius: ванъюэ (vanʺjue)
    • Sinological IPA ^(key): /wɑŋ⁵¹⁻⁵³ ɥɛ⁵¹/

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• Middle Chinese: mjangH ywet

Rime
Character	妄	說
Reading #	1/1	2/3
Initial (聲)	明 (4)	以 (36)
Final (韻)	陽 (106)	薛 (82)
Tone (調)	Departing (H)	Checked (Ø)
Openness (開合)	Closed	Closed
Division (等)	III	III
Fanqie	巫放切	弋雪切
Baxter	mjangH	ywet
Reconstructions
Zhengzhang Shangfang	/mʉɐŋH/	/jiuᴇt̚/
Pan Wuyun	/mʷiɐŋH/	/jʷiɛt̚/
Shao Rongfen	/miuɑŋH/	/juæt̚/
Edwin Pulleyblank	/muaŋH/	/jwiat̚/
Li Rong	/miuaŋH/	/iuɛt̚/
Wang Li	/mĭwaŋH/	/jĭuɛt̚/
Bernard Karlgren	/miwaŋH/	/i̯wɛt̚/
Expected Mandarin Reflex	wàng	yuè
Expected Cantonese Reflex	mong6	jyut6

• Old Chinese

  (Baxter–Sagart): /*maŋ-s

  (Zhengzhang): /*maŋs  lod/

Baxter–Sagart system 1.1 (2014)
Character	妄
Reading #	1/1
Modern Beijing (Pinyin)	wàng
Middle Chinese	‹ mjangH ›
Old Chinese	/*maŋ-s/
English	reckless
Notes for Old Chinese notations in the Baxter–Sagart system: * Parentheses "()" indicate uncertain presence; * Square brackets "[]" indicate uncertain identity, e.g. *[t] as coda may in fact be *-t or *-p; * Angle brackets "<>" indicate infix; * Hyphen "-" indicates morpheme boundary; * Period "." indicates syllable boundary.

Zhengzhang system (2003)
Character	妄	說
Reading #	1/1	3/3
No.	12684	2577
Phonetic component	亡	兑
Rime group	陽	月
Rime subdivision	0	3
Corresponding MC rime	妄	悅
Old Chinese	/*maŋs/	/*lod/

Verb

妄說

1. (literary) to please with empty talk

   • 禮，不妄說人，不辭費。 [Classical Chinese, trad.]
     礼，不妄说人，不辞费。 [Classical Chinese, simp.]

     From: The Book of Rites, c. 4^th – 2^nd century BCE, translated based on James Legge's version

     Lǐ, bù wàngyuè rén, bù cífèi. [Pinyin]

     According to those rules, one should not (seek to) please others in an improper way, nor be lavish of his words.