Talk:داذي

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@Fenakhay: I thought this may be a rare plural of غَائِلَة (ḡāʔila), which is usually غَوائِل (ḡawāʔil), but old poets have often surprising ones, like e.g. those mentioned at أَمَة (ʔama), for which the linked Nöldeke has cited all the quotes he could get. It also reminded me of a poem I quoted under inter alia at ثَمِل (ṯamil) and translated metrically, where first هَمّ (hamm, sorrow) is done away with by boozing and then the alkie is also said to be نَقِيّ (naqiyy), so it reminded me of a common idea of being free from sorrows because of being well provided in food and drink. If you have a better meaning go for it, I am bad at poetry.
Which Arjan though is it, perhaps we need a Wikipedia link? Unless it is about أَرْجَان (ʔarjān, argan) molasses, for which it is probably too early – I see it has some place pattern like the نُبَاطِيُّ (nubāṭiyyu) in the poem at فُرَانِق (furāniq) (which however has variants in that place if one searches this poem; T:var did not exist yet and would break the transcription). Fay Freak (talk) 13:42, 16 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Fay Freak: It makes sense, that's how I understood it as well. The problem with *أَغَالِي (ʔaḡālī) is that plurals with the pattern أَفَاعِل (ʔafāʕil) have their singular's pattern أَفْعَل (ʔafʕal) (e.g. أَقْصَر (ʔaqṣar), أَقَاصِر (ʔaqāṣir)) or that their singular's first hamza is not part of the root (e.g. إِصْبَع (ʔiṣbaʕ), أَصَابِع (ʔaṣābiʕ)). So the expected singular would be *أَغْلِيَة (ʔaḡliya) or *أُغْلِيَة (ʔuḡliya). Though some nouns have irregular plurals regardless of its root.
The adjective رَجَانِيِّ (rajāniyyi) is the nisba of أَرْجَان (ʔarjān, Arjan, Arrajan) which was an old city in Persia and was known for their molasses.
a. 1000, المقدسي, edited by Michael Jan de Goeje, أحسن التقاسيم في معرفة الأقاليم [ʾaḥsan at-taqāsīm fī maʿrifa al-ʾaqālīm] (Bibliotheca Geographorum Arabicorum; 3)‎[1], Leiden: E. J. Brill, published 1877, 1906, page 425:
أرجان قصبة شديدة العمارة كثيرة الخيرات جليلة المدن سرية الاهل تجمع الثلج والرطب والليمون والعنب هي معدن التين والزيتون وبها يعمل الدبس الفائق والصابون خزانة فارس والعراق ومطرح خوزستان وإصفهان بها نهر غزير يشق البلد وجامع حسن عامر على طرف الاسواق به مغارة طويلة ظريفة بنيانهم حجر غير مؤلف وبه سوق البزازين على عمل سوق سجستان عليه أبواب تغلق كل ليلة وهو صفوف مصلبة والابواب من الاربعة جوانب يقابل بعضها بعضا ولا ترى أحسن من سوق الحنطة بها نظيفة طيبة في الشتاء قد غابت في النخيل والبساتين وآبارها حلوة وقل ما شئت في الخبزات والأسماك والثلج والرطب
(please add an English translation of this quotation)
. فين أخاي (talk) 16:26, 16 September 2020 (UTC)Reply