Talk:قالای

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@Fay Freak, according to Ačaṙyan, the origin is Arabic qalaʿi, from the name of Kuala (Lumpur), good source of tin. He quotes Berneker. If you create the Arabic, we could dump the numerous descendants there. --Vahag (talk) 07:32, 18 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

@Vahagn Petrosyan The Arabic term is رَصَاص قَلَعِيّ (raṣāṣ qalaʕiyy), Dozy, Reinhart Pieter Anne (1881) “قالای”, in Supplément aux dictionnaires arabes[1] (in French), volume 1, Leiden: E. J. Brill, page 397, Google Books], that is the alleged source of the Persian قلع (qal), or also قلعی (qali), as well as Persian قلعی (qali). While the sources agree it is some place, the name is given variously. Could it be the Klang River? Or could it be the Kallang River somewhat more in the South, now in the homonymous place in Singapur Wikipedia claims to have been Kilang and Kelang (= Կալանգ (Kalang)) too? We have Indonesian kaleng (tin; can) about the existence of which the web leaves no doubt; Gerhard Kahlo glosses 'kalēng “Weißblech”. He also has a kalang = galang “Unterlage”; galanganHelling” (DWDS, apparently = slipway, قَزَق (qazaq)) Fay Freak (talk) 13:53, 18 September 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Fay Freak, The Encyclopaedia of Islam discusses this in detail. --Vahag (talk) 14:53, 18 September 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Vahagn Petrosyan After bumming and browsing around in map apps and the web for way too long I could not pin down all the names mentioned there. I wish one would write such works with coordinates, and somebody in some future on Wiktionary should create template to we can define place names with coordinates. At كلة I could only crystallize two candidate towns invested in exporting tin according to other sources. Now it is left to you to assign the Armenian կլայեկ (klayek, tin) to its immediate source, perhaps stating also a suffix it seems to contain. Fay Freak (talk) 22:42, 18 September 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Fay Freak, thanks for summarizing the content. I added the Armenian. --Vahag (talk) 19:44, 19 September 2019 (UTC)Reply