Talk:आढ्य

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Hindi अड़ेवा (aṛevā)[edit]

@Bhagadatta, Kutchkutch: How is आढ्य -> Prakrit अड्ढ -> अड़ेवा? Shouldn't it be *आढ / *आढ़ / *आढ़ा? Perhaps it's some Āgama of "व" in MIA. Will this etymology of अड़ेवा be fine - From {{inh|hi|psu|*अड्ढिअवग}} (compare {{m|psu|अड्ढ}}), from {{inh|hi|inc-ash|*आड्ढिय}} {{inc-ext|hi|va|ka}}, ultimately from {{inh|hi|sa|आढ्य}}.

@शब्दशोधक: The derivation of अड़ेवा (aṛevā) from आढ्य (āḍhya) is doubtful. The de-aspiration of /ɖʱ/ is tricky. You can add the above etymology but you need to put perhaps before it. -- 𝓑𝓱𝓪𝓰𝓪𝓭𝓪𝓽𝓽𝓪(𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓴) 02:42, 27 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
@शब्दशोधक, Bhagadatta: There appear to be several leaps of faith that would be required for अड़ेवा (aṛevā)आढ्य (āḍhya) to be true (CDIAL indicates this as (?)). An issue with the suggested etymology is that va / व / 𑀯 is considered as secondary hiatus-filler that is less productive than ya / य / 𑀬 (see Lua error in Module:parameters at line 95: Parameter 1 should be a valid language or etymology language code; the value "pmh" is not valid. See WT:LOL and WT:LOL/E.) rather than an extension. If this uncertainty needs to be indicated in the tree, perhaps the {{para|unc}} parameter of {{desc}} can be used. Kutchkutch (talk) 10:00, 27 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Kutchkutch:  Done. For Hindi etymology of अड़ेवा, I'll just say - Ultimately from{{der|hi|sa|आढ्य}} - is that fine? 🔥शब्दशोधक🔥 11:58, 27 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
@शब्दशोधक: Ultimately is very conclusive, so if the uncertainty needs to be indicated, Ultimately could be changed to Possibly, Probably, Compare, etc. Kutchkutch (talk) 12:15, 27 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Kutchkutch: Ok, I do so. @Bhagadatta: What about vriddhi derivative of root ऋध्? You only stated earlier that it doesn't make much sense. 🔥शब्दशोधक🔥 12:55, 27 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
@शब्दशोधक: Good catch, I did say that 😅. What was meant by this etymology was that the term is from ārdhya which is a vriddhi derivative of a certain formation of the root ऋध् (like ऋद्धि (ṛddhi) or ऋद्ध (ṛddha) plus a -ya extension or maybe an unattested one *अर्ध). We just don't know which one. I'll re-word it. -- 𝓑𝓱𝓪𝓰𝓪𝓭𝓪𝓽𝓽𝓪(𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓴) 14:02, 27 February 2021 (UTC)Reply